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General Discussion / Re: LBC discuss TVL evasion rate increase
« Last post by jimspurn on Today at 04:34:25 PM »
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Why does Ferrari keep saying “you’re breaking the law if you don’t have a TV Licence”? This is such an inaccurate statement for him to be saying - yet he claims to be anti-TVL?

He is part of the problem in this regard, either he has failed to grasp the details of this thorny issue or he is 'protecting LBC' just in case...... :sad:
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Advice Centre / Re: Advice on going LLF
« Last post by jimspurn on Today at 04:22:17 PM »
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Despite being a person with strong principles I don't know whether or not I can be bothered with the hassle of all this, despite knowing I will not be watching live tv or using the iplayer. I don't think I want the stress and I have scared myself reading about visits, threats and court appearances etc. I don't want to go to court!! On the other hand, I don't want to give in to bullies.

Please put my mind at rest with this. What is likelihood of eventually getting a summons and having to defend myself in a courtroom?!

Then don't give in, your choice.
Statistically Unlikely to be taken to court, they need information to do so,  someone needs to open their mouth enough for the goon to start fabricating
the information needed. NO COMMUNICATION. No names, no confirmation of address, etc.
ID caller
close door

Nothing stressful, all cold callers are to be treated equally not just goons.

We have lived without the legal need for a TV licence since 2006, never been to court about it, all cold callers get the cold shoulder.
others have been LLF for much longer.
 
Your choice.
remember you won't get eaten by sharks if you don't go into the water...... 

But, if you do swim with sharks, be prepared.....:biggrin:
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General Discussion / Re: LBC discuss TVL evasion rate increase
« Last post by RaymondCox on Today at 04:10:27 PM »
Why does Ferrari keep saying “you’re breaking the law if you don’t have a TV Licence”? This is such an inaccurate statement for him to be saying - yet he claims to be anti-TVL?
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Advice Centre / Re: Advice on going LLF
« Last post by jimspurn on Today at 03:59:55 PM »
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Thanks for the replies and advice folks. Much appreciated.

My only issue would be a goon coming when I am not in and catching another member of the family off guard (by that I don't mean watching TV, but off guard in terms of trying to coax details and information out of them). I assume it is sound advice to fully brief them on the NO communication rule and having the confidence to shut the door on them once they have identified themselves as TVL/Capita?

Is it sound advice to also film the answers at the door even when you say nothing and shut the door on them? Just to prevent them actually lying and fabricating things that they might allege you said on your doorstep? Aforementioned video thus proving that absolutely nothing was said/signed?

Or am I being a tad paranoid here?  :chinscratch:

Regards

Crockster

All members of the family should be well trained to ignore strangers asking questions at the family door. CCTV/video is a good idea, the stranger maybe a thief or some other scum bag.
ID's can be faked, Paranoid is good when it comes to family safety.

Solid advice from the Police and Trading standards.

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All children in this household are trained to ignore cold callers without an adult being present, and if in any doubt, given were we live, call the Police.
CCTV - multiple camera locations running 24/7, high gates - locked, dogs running loose, etc.  Where I used to live, we had geese - great guard creatures  :smile:

If some stranger really needs access too your home, then I'm sure they would be good enough to wait while ID is verified.


 



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Advice Centre / Re: Advice on going LLF
« Last post by SilentScream on Today at 03:44:12 PM »
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Despite being a person with strong principles I don't know whether or not I can be bothered with the hassle of all this, despite knowing I will not be watching live tv or using the iplayer. I don't think I want the stress and I have scared myself reading about visits, threats and court appearances etc. I don't want to go to court!! On the other hand, I don't want to give in to bullies.

Please put my mind at rest with this. What is likelihood of eventually getting a summons and having to defend myself in a courtroom?!

If you keep up the no contact rule then they have none to summon to court, so don't worry about that. Just tell them if you are caught unaware to take a hike. If they ask for you by name ask who they are, once you find out then you can justify saying nothing more and close the door.
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Advice Centre / Re: Advice on going LLF
« Last post by crockster on Today at 03:40:01 PM »
Despite being a person with strong principles I don't know whether or not I can be bothered with the hassle of all this, despite knowing I will not be watching live tv or using the iplayer. I don't think I want the stress and I have scared myself reading about visits, threats and court appearances etc. I don't want to go to court!! On the other hand, I don't want to give in to bullies.

Please put my mind at rest with this. What is likelihood of eventually getting a summons and having to defend myself in a courtroom?!


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BBC know that more and more are ditching TV for digital media. Nothing but scaremongering -notice that goon videos on YouTube are decreasing.

They are know that goons were for a silly company and have no real power, unless you give it to them.

I guess Capita will need to rely on foringers  and DWP to get staff.
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Advice Centre / Re: Advice on going LLF
« Last post by Hughie on Today at 03:09:15 PM »
Crockster,you need to educate ALL family members who live with you about dealing with TVL.

Welcome to the forum  :cool:
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We have already seen cross referencing of NLN email addresses with iPlayer accounts.

I'm happy for them to waste loads of money, only to find that the vast majority don't need a license or won't talk to them on the door step, hopefully an ever
increasing spend on goons, travel, courts, PIV - Pervs in Vans, etc. with very little return for the BBC is on the cards.
Wouldn't it be nice if the collections costs could be pushed to over £250 million..... :biggrin:

Still
‘through better field enforcement activities and improved identification of false No Licence Needed declarations’.
Hopefully our mantra of No communication will hopefully bite both methods.

If 1.9 million people a year are 'evading' then the BBC have their work cut out to prove that fact, that's visiting over 5200 addresses, 24 hours a day every day  :laugh:
how many goons needed to reduce that to a manageable size per day?
they might have to drag Doyle back..... :biggrin:



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General Discussion / Re: LBC discuss TVL evasion rate increase
« Last post by rubbie on Today at 02:45:01 PM »
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According to the BBC anyone who does not require a TV licence is an evader.

BBC Propaganda at its finest - They never talk about LLF, as they would react like slugs on salt.

If you don't  follow the BBC stance on everything you are SCUM OF THE EARTH in their eyes.
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